Please remove my name from your post now



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/25/2018 05:17PM by bgriffin.

Please also explain to me who breeched my confidentiality and gave you my first name. I did not, I have no communication outside of this forum with you. I need to address whoever gave you my name.

What does this mean?

@Eric in Tampa wrote:

"The way is shut. It was made by those that are dead, and the dead keep it."

Wales goes all the way back to SABOTS, MsAddict.

@bgriffin wrote:

Please remove my name from your post now

Sure. I'll make sure that's done today. This is not a problem at all.

@bgriffin wrote:

Please also explain to me who breeched my confidentiality and gave you my first name. I did not, I have no communication outside of this forum with you. I need to address whoever gave you my name.

You did. We have attended the same conference. Ive known who you were since the first time you replied to me on this forum.

@bgriffin wrote:

Please also explain to me who breeched my confidentiality and gave you my first name. I did not, I have no communication outside of this forum with you. I need to address whoever gave you my name.

Can you confirm that we have cleared up the things in my prior post. You've only commented about the first word of my post. I just want to make sure we're cleared up on the rest of the post.

@Eric in Tampa wrote:

Wales goes all the way back to SABOTS, MsAddict.

What is sabots if not a weapon?

@jrossetti wrote:

@bgriffin wrote:

Please also explain to me who breeched my confidentiality and gave you my first name. I did not, I have no communication outside of this forum with you. I need to address whoever gave you my name.

Can you confirm that we have cleared up the things in my prior post. You've only commented about the first word of my post. I just want to make sure we're cleared up on the rest of the post.

I only attended 1 conference before I heard your name. I did not speak to you at that conference. I had not met any other shoppers in person at that time and I spoke only to a couple of schedulers and a couple of shoppers that I had worked on a project with. I did not speak to you and do not believe I ever came into contact with you if you were even at that conference. So the only way you would have gotten my first name at that conference was to ask about me. I again ask the question of who breeched my confidentiality.

As for your prior post, I did not, and do not plan on reading it. I stopped after the first word and replied immediately after hitting the report button. I was mildly amused before. I am pissed now.

Additionally I just got confirmation from someone else that you were not, indeed, at that conference.

@bgriffin wrote:

@jrossetti wrote:

@bgriffin wrote:

Please also explain to me who breeched my confidentiality and gave you my first name. I did not, I have no communication outside of this forum with you. I need to address whoever gave you my name.

Can you confirm that we have cleared up the things in my prior post. You've only commented about the first word of my post. I just want to make sure we're cleared up on the rest of the post.

do not believe I ever came into contact with you if you were even at that conference. So the only way you would have gotten my first name at that conference was to ask about me. I again ask the question of who breeched my confidentiality.

As for your prior post, I did not, and do not plan on reading it. I stopped after the first word and replied immediately after hitting the report button. I was mildly amused before. I am pissed now.

The answer to your question is again, you. I got your name from you. We absolutely have been at at least one conference together. I'm not sure why you believe otherwise but it sounds like you just dont recall. It almost sounds like you are calling me a liar. You asked, I told you. I'm sorry that you dont seem to agree with the response.

I didn't stop reading after the first word, demand, or accusation. I've also made several overtures to try and resolve things with you that you have ignored repeatedly. This doesn't seem to be the action of someone who is looking to make sure he has all the facts. You seem to be very interested in trying to discredit me. I hope my belief is mistaken and it's just coincidence. Health skepticism is fine and I respect that but I'm no longer seeing your actions lining up with that.

You spent several posts misinterpreting my words, forcing me to clarify that how you were rewording was inaccurate, and then all of a sudden you dont want to talk about any of that anymore. I suppose that is one way to avoid admitting a mistake was made or addressing the inaccuracies you had said in this thread.

I'm beginning to think your concern and wanting to know what was going on was not being done in good faith. No matter what explanation you are given you find something new to latch onto or twist, this time being the fact I used your first name in a post. (Which I replied and said it was no trouble to remove mind you)

I hope you can move on from being pissed. I can only imagine what would happen if something actually serious happened. It doesn't' get much less stressful than someone using your name, being asked to remove it, and saying sure no problem will do so today. What's there to be pissed about? I wasnt' aware that you were trying to keep your first name hidden and respect that you wanted to do that.



I am going to try this one more time and extend my hand out to you in hopes to resolve any animosity you seem to hold towards me. This is my 4th attempt in doing so.

What say you?



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Here's my problem with you, and this post is a perfect example. We have entirely different personalities and way of dealing with people. We have had issues before. We will probably have them later. They start with you being an ass to me several years ago. They continue now. You're repeated requests to become buddies has always been about you explaining why I misunderstood you. Now you're explaining how you didn't misspeak. And you're explaining how I gave you my name when I didn't. And how you got sales from your advertisement but then you didn't.

You are an explainer. An excuse maker. Had you started out with "I'm sorry I was an ass" or even ended with "I apologise for using your name in the forum, I wasn't aware that it was frowned upon here" I might be more inclined to listen. But you have no faults and if you believe you do you are certainly not going to acknowledge them publicly. You only make excuses for your actions and do not take responsibility for them.

@bgriffin wrote:

Here's my problem with you, and this post is a perfect example. We have entirely different personalities and way of dealing with people. We have had issues before. We will probably have them later. They start with you being an ass to me several years ago. They continue now. You're repeated requests to become buddies has always been about you explaining why I misunderstood you. Now you're explaining how you didn't misspeak. And you're explaining how I gave you my name when I didn't. And how you got sales from your advertisement but then you didn't.

You are an explainer. An excuse maker. Had you started out with "I'm sorry I was an ass" or even ended with "I apologise for using your name in the forum, I wasn't aware that it was frowned upon here" I might be more inclined to listen. But you have no faults and if you believe you do you are certainly not going to acknowledge them publicly. You only make excuses for your actions and do not take responsibility for them.

I could say the exact same thing about you too. It seems we both feel the same way. Sounds like a great reason to chat things through.


However, I didn't mis-speak. You personally read the sentence wrong and inferred the wrong meaning. I have no choice but to explain because you didn't understand what I was saying the first time.

I'm not trying to be your friend. I dont want to be your friend. I do however want to clear the air about any misconceptions because from where I am standing, literally everything you have brought up (recently) has been a product of misunderstanding what I was trying to say, or simply reading things in the wrong voice. That can be resolved through talking. Maybe it's my fault for not being clear enough, kor maybe its your fault for whatever reason. Truly, I care not about placing blame. Ive been attempting to turn over a new leaf and am meeting lots of resistance.

How can we have a conversation in good faith when you refuse to acknowledge any errors were made?

No where did I said I got sales from vegas. You interpreted that from other words that mean different things.
No where did I say I delivered products IN or AT the conference. What I said was "on-site" which meant "in vegas". Those are simple misunderstandings and of course I am going to address them. You claimed it meant one thing, but it didn't. That's not an excuse.

Now you seem to be upset that I said sure, I'll change your name today instead of saying I'm sorry I didn't know that was frowned upon here. Is there truly a difference? In both cases it's an acknowledgement a mistake was made. I had no idea that it was going to make you that upset. I dont consider my first name privelaged information. You do. So I said I would fix it. Isn't that how most problems should be resolved? Is that really going to be your reason to again ignore an attempt to work things out? Seems to be looking for a reason to not do so.


At some point youre going to have to decide if it's worth continuing to combat me on every little thing and word choice is more important than trying to come to a resolution that is less dramatic. I'm happy to take the first step. Can I count on you to take a second?

I have entertained you and responded to every accusation and misunderstanding you have made this week. You have done the literal opposite with everything I have posted to you. It takes two people to try and until I believe you are willing to try I don't think I have much more to say to you. Just as you owe me no explanation, I owe nothing to you as well.


This is my final offer. Do you want to try and hash things out and keep things respectful? I can't change the past. We can change the present and the future, but it takes two of us. Not just one.

More excuses! When will they stop?

@bgriffin wrote:

More excuses! When will they stop?

Now that I can see you're not chatting in good faith I wish you the best.

I might try again in a few months.

I am taking all of my toys and going back to my own sand box

ColoKate,
So now I am called out for trying to introduce some levity into my response detailing my relationship (which was legitimately inquired about here) with IMSC ? Among those who have been to several conferences there is a sort of pool on how soon I will ask that question about Tony's brother. Since some many here are jumping down posters' throats with accusations that their explanation were not clear and complete, it seemed like a good time to be clear and, if anything, overly complete.

Wales, you may be mistaking ColoKate for her previous persona on the forum. That one had a sense of humor.

@jrossetti wrote:

@bgriffin wrote:

More excuses! When will they stop?

Now that I can see you're not chatting in good faith I wish you the best.

I might try again in a few months.

Look at things from my point of view.

You treated me like an ass but it was my fault for misunderstanding you.
You made a statement that you delivered something onsite but I just misunderstood you and you really meant the same city.
You made a statement that you didn't advertise at a conference and I just misunderstood what giving an item with your name and price attached was.
You made a statement that you got some inquiries from that advertisement but then clarified there were no actual sales. Something else I misunderstood.
You used my first name in a post and said you would remove it and I just misunderstood that you meant that as an apology.

I misunderstand a lot of things. It wouldn't be the first time I misunderstood something if I did indeed misunderstood you in any of those instances. But to say that I misunderstood you in every single one of those cases and that none of them simply were your attempt to change your story insinuates that not only me, but your entire audience on this website, are morons. It is simply not possible that all of those things are misunderstandings.

*resolved*



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Awww. I was having coffee with my mom and totally missed what you said before the edit. Oh well. I'm glad the situation is resolved!

I am moving on to EOM and EOQ MS madness. At least that pays the bills.

@MsAddict, the way is shut! It was made by those that are dead, and the dead keep it.

@Eric in Tampa?

BG, you were both at the
Atlanta Conference, even if you only stopped in briefly. You spoke with several folks before you departed. All I can say is that I did not disclose your name. But, at a conference, if someone asks another, "Who was that," the answer is likely to be one's real name, since we all register that way. You are not guaranteed anonymity when you register and walk in the door.

A SABOT refers to the Sisters and Brothers of the Traveling Shirts, an old name that video shoppers had for themselves back when the MSCs shipper rigs and wild colored shirt to us in order for us to do our shops. Not a weapon. I am told that it is a word that describes a leaky little boat in another language. That was kinda how video shoppers felt back then.



Now I suggest that we all depart in silence.

@walesmaven wrote:

BG, you were both at the
Atlanta Conference, even if you only stopped in briefly. You spoke with several folks before you departed. All I can say is that I did not disclose your name. But, at a conference, if someone asks another, "Who was that," the answer is likely to be one's real name, since we all register that way. You are not guaranteed anonymity when you register and walk in the door.

A SABOT refers to the Sisters and Brothers of the Traveling Shirts, an old name that video shoppers had for themselves back when the MSCs shipper rigs and wild colored shirt to us in order for us to do our shops. Not a weapon. I am told that it is a word that describes a leaky little boat in another language. That was kinda how video shoppers felt back then.



Now I suggest that we all depart in silence.

Haha, now i remember that. That was right when I first started. SAbot is also a round of ammunition.

I was confused because he combined Sabot with a tolkien quote and wasn't seeing the tie in

@walesmaven wrote:

BG, you were both at the
Atlanta Conference, even if you only stopped in briefly. You spoke with several folks before you departed. All I can say is that I did not disclose your name. But, at a conference, if someone asks another, "Who was that," the answer is likely to be one's real name, since we all register that way. You are not guaranteed anonymity when you register and walk in the door.

Yes we were, but specifically stated that he knew my name and who I was when I replied to him the first time several years ago. That was between my first and second conference. Therefore there is only one conference it could have been. So therefore, he misspoke, again. Oh wait no! I misunderstood again!

The way is shut...

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@Eric in Tampa wrote:

The way is shut...

Youre killing me.

Well if you didn't know that there was a reason that people use some semblance of their names but not entirely their real names, or they use something completely different from what their real names are, you know now--and hey I have no dog in this fight, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's not cool to disclose info like that in the forum.