I'm wondering what people have experienced when ordering entrees at a restaurant where everything is a la carte. Is it acceptable to order a side or is it expected that proteins will be eaten solo?

I have not yet done a steakhouse for Coyle but I have for another MSC. I feel like this is like first world problem level whining but I recently did a steakhouse (not for Coyle) and got kind of tired of just eating meat. I have a steakhouse coming up for Coyle and I wonder if it is acceptable to order a side. There always seem to be warnings about mid-priced items and excessive ordering, etc.

Another interesting thing with this job is that the reimbursement is listed at x for one person and 2x for two people. I might be over thinking it but would this actually be a limit as in, don't exceed x (minus drink and half dessert, half appetizer) for one person? Is this a way to limit the amount spent on a single entree? This place seems a little wild with entrees ranging from $xx to $xxxx.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I always worry that asking too many questions of support/scheduling at Coyle will land me on some restricted list!

I have never had an issue with ordering sides when shopping a steakhouse for Coyle and often it is a required order at such places. I’ve also never had an issue getting a prompt response from their support desk. The support desk doesn’t do the scheduling.

@NinS wrote:

I have never had an issue with ordering sides when shopping a steakhouse for Coyle and often it is a required order at such places. I’ve also never had an issue getting a prompt response from their support desk. The support desk doesn’t do the scheduling.

Thanks so much! I ended up writing support because I'd be worried about the stupid $18 vegetable!

The other MSC I've done steakhouses for does not allow you to order sides in addition to the steak. They only allow an entree that comes with sides or a steak but no ordering a side in addition to the steak. I get a little tired of eating meat about half way through (and the budget only allows for a 6 oz steak!).

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I've always ordered sides with Coyle restaurants if the entree doesn't come with it. My husband and I really enjoy vegetables.

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@viv0412 wrote:

I've always ordered sides with Coyle restaurants if the entree doesn't come with it. My husband and I really enjoy vegetables.

Now I’m feeling like an idiot because it seems like the other MSC is the exception. lol. Honestly, it has always felt kind of ridiculous just ordering a steak. I always wondered if it was a tip off at the other MSC’s restaurant but the staff certainly doesn’t step up. Ha.

Okay, I’m looking forward to a side now!

@olympia tennenbaum You won't have an issue with sides as far as ordering guidelines go. It may affect the overall budget, so just be careful with that. I know the client in question, based on how you stated the reimbursement limit, and it gets pricey quickly, despite seeming like a really generous budget.

I think it's possible to do the assignment alone and just take the single person reimbursement, but they don't get picky about it having any one person's order being under the 50% mark when you have 2 people. It just has to be under the total allowed.

Keep in mind that they will require 3 courses, so a single app and single dessert will also be required, and it's a lot of food. I recommend to keep the appetizer light and inexpensive, and you should be fine. There's basically just one dessert and it's on the pricey side.

My other advice for steakhouses in general and keeping on budget within the Coyle format, is that when the bar is also required, don't go to the bar with your guest. Have the guest drop you off and go to the bar solo, stating you are meeting someone. Spend the requisite amount of time at the bar making observations and have your guest meet you at the reservation time, and you can bring your drink to the table if you didn't finish it at the bar! For the outlet near me, nobody goes to the bar, and the restaurant is never full, so it would be a giveaway for 2 people to show up, go to the bar first and then sit down for a dinner reservation.

For me, it's as much of a crime to get an expensive steak without a side as it is to consume it without a glass of wine, so I bring at least a half glass from my visit the bar to the table and that way I can get a refill at the table without exceeding the alcohol guidelines or budget. Going to the bar after dinner means that I would have to watch my wine contusion with the steak.

That said, with the cheapest app, two steaks (steaks for both are allowed at a steakhouse, provided they are different steaks - I confirmed that before the shop in question), side and dessert, we were able to get 2 glasses of wine each and come in under budget. And we did not get the cheapest steaks!

If you are wondering how we had 2 glasses each with the bar system I mentioned, I sent my wife window shopping in the area while I evaluated the bar, then texted her when it was time to come meet me, and put in her wine order with the bartender...so it ends up being 1 drink each at the bar and 1 each at dinner, since I paid out the bar check for the two glasses there, and the restaurant in question is very good about putting the bar drinks on a tray and bring them to you at the table, which makes it feel like being able to have 2 glasses of wine with dinner.

We also took an Uber to/from the restaurant because we were heading for a heavy food coma after the steaks and wine. One of us may have fallen asleep in the Uber on the way home...

Thanks, Steve. Based on something you wrote in the past I wondered if you had visited. I knew nothing about the place before the Coyle posting and after visiting the website, I wonder what the visit will be like. Online reviews are extremely split.

I like the bar tip. I ended up doing something similar with my last non-Coyle steakhouse. The location was basically empty so I'm glad we did it that way. It always seems like a tell when you head to the bar when you have reservations and the place is empty.

I was checking out the menu and I'm picking up what you're putting down on the app and dessert. Too bad the sides look like those from a commonplace Australian-themed steakhouse chain! I'll have to figure out more about the steaks. Based on my quick look it seems like there are some less expensive options and then some outrageous options. Hopefully there will be something decent in-between. Sounds like you made it work.

Did your location have a crazy surcharge? I really abhor how they can pop up and bite you. I had one at the coffee shop of a hotel recently and felt kind of bitter seeing 6% I wasn't expecting.

Thanks, as always. Whenever I have Coyle questions I'm particularly happy to see your responses knowing how much experience you have!

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AS of July 1 California law prohibits surcharges not included in the advertised price. They gave a last minute reprieve to the restaurant industry. Restaurants can charge separate fees and surcharges but it must be noted somewhere on the menu.
For those living elsewhere look to your state to enact such a law so we are not surprised by excess fees in addition to what we expected to pay.

@olympia tennenbaum wrote:

Did your location have a crazy surcharge? I really abhor how they can pop up and bite you. I had one at the coffee shop of a hotel recently and felt kind of bitter seeing 6% I wasn't expecting.

No surcharge for me, because the location in Bev Hills is a stand alone restaurant. Not sure where you are located, though.

My wife knew about the restaurant from social media, and was excited when she saw it become available. I had actually had never heard of it either.

One of our steaks was $95 and we still had room to spare with a 20% tip. It's all kind of served family style anyway, where you should not be required to order 2 entrees, but you cannot change that requirement with Coyle, so order something a bit more 'unique' or a seafood item for the second entree, along with a side, and then make it a surf & turf that you share. Ordering a non-steak item for entree #2 will also save enough that you can splurge on the steak.

And I think they make their $$ of the drinks more than the steaks. My wine was $24/glass and I found it online for $18/bottle!

My budgeting advice; reverse-calculate the tax and tip at 20% from the allowed expense, and that will give you a subtotal you can reach. Based on the drink menus I have seen, if you order 4 drinks total you should budget about $100 for that, and $50 for apps/dessert (mine came to exactly $150 for those items) and then you might theoretically have around $190 to spend for 2 entrees and a side. That's going to make it an easier decision when it comes time to order. If that is the case and you can make 1 entree and a side fit in at $90, you would have a $100 left for a steak.

@SteveSoCal wrote:

@olympia tennenbaum wrote:

Did your location have a crazy surcharge? I really abhor how they can pop up and bite you. I had one at the coffee shop of a hotel recently and felt kind of bitter seeing 6% I wasn't expecting.

No surcharge for me, because the location in Bev Hills is a stand alone restaurant. Not sure where you are located, though.

My wife knew about the restaurant from social media, and was excited when she saw it become available. I had actually had never heard of it either.

One of our steaks was $95 and we still had room to spare with a 20% tip. It's all kind of served family style anyway, where you should not be required to order 2 entrees, but you cannot change that requirement with Coyle, so order something a bit more 'unique' or a seafood item for the second entree, along with a side, and then make it a surf & turf that you share. Ordering a non-steak item for entree #2 will also save enough that you can splurge on the steak.

And I think they make their $$ of the drinks more than the steaks. My wine was $24/glass and I found it online for $18/bottle!

My budgeting advice; reverse-calculate the tax and tip at 20% from the allowed expense, and that will give you a subtotal you can reach. Based on the drink menus I have seen, if you order 4 drinks total you should budget about $100 for that, and $50 for apps/dessert (mine came to exactly $150 for those items) and then you might theoretically have around $190 to spend for 2 entrees and a side. That's going to make it an easier decision when it comes time to order. If that is the case and you can make 1 entree and a side fit in at $90, you would have a $100 left for a steak.

I did a little more digging and found the entire menu online via Yelp. I always divide the budget by 1.3 to get my spending allowance. If I don't plan ahead with what I'm ordering or at least close to it, I'll get flustered onsite. I also usually let my better half know his max before we step foot in a place. We are not the most decisive people so I try to review menus and prices before we step foot out of the house. It usually helps, but not always!

Oof, good to know about the wine. We don't always do the full alcohol allowance so that can also save some room in the budget. It is nice that it's enough of a budget to have some choices. I'm don't mind going over the budget when it's something I'm interested in but I always end up feeling rubbed the wrong way when I'm left looking at ordering a burger somewhere just to be close to the budget. Not that I don't love a good burger, I just don't want to be somewhere potentially great and all of the interesting options are far out of reach.

Thanks again, Steve! (Oh, did you like the food?)

@sandyf wrote:

AS of July 1 California law prohibits surcharges not included in the advertised price. They gave a last minute reprieve to the restaurant industry. Restaurants can charge separate fees and surcharges but it must be noted somewhere on the menu.
For those living elsewhere look to your state to enact such a law so we are not surprised by excess fees in addition to what we expected to pay.

I was booking a non-shop hotel today and my blood pressure was skyrocketing reading about the resort fee. I know they have become commonplace but the thing that got me going was what they advertised you received for the fee - including a 10% discount on a rental, a 5% discount at the spa, a 5% discount at the restaurant, etc. Like I want to pay $50 for a coupon book that I'll never use.

My better half had luck once telling the hotel manager we didn't use any of the services and he didn't want to pay the fee. We were at a historic hotel in Waikiki and the fee went toward a go-pro rental and other services we didn't use. I was really surprised when the manager actually waved them.

Anyway, sorry to go off on a rant/tangent. My husband said no more coffee today!

And, is there a date by which restaurants must stop adding these fees?

Olympia , for now this rule is in California and it went into effect July 1 of this year. I have no idea if any other states have enacted a law but I do know this was one of the items the US President was working on. From what I can tell there are proposed bans on junk fees that the FTC has been trying to get approved but it seems like they are still in process. What seems to have already passed is a big new list of things the airlines can and cannot do.
Also there is this from Consumer Reports (2019)

What percentage of people who fight hidden fees are successful?
For example, 3 out of 10 people in CR's survey who experienced a hidden charge in the past two years said they fought it—and almost two-thirds of those people said they were successful in getting the charge refunded or taken off the bill.May 29, 2019

Those sneaky unannounced fees and surcharges are particularly annoying when we are on a shop and trying our hardest not to go overbudget for our "free" meal or whatever and then after our careful menu planning to stay within the reimbursement we find we are slapped with an additional % charge after the fact.

@olympia tennenbaum wrote:

@sandyf wrote:

AS of July 1 California law prohibits surcharges not included in the advertised price. They gave a last minute reprieve to the restaurant industry. Restaurants can charge separate fees and surcharges but it must be noted somewhere on the menu.
For those living elsewhere look to your state to enact such a law so we are not surprised by excess fees in addition to what we expected to pay.

I was booking a non-shop hotel today and my blood pressure was skyrocketing reading about the resort fee. I know they have become commonplace but the thing that got me going was what they advertised you received for the fee - including a 10% discount on a rental, a 5% discount at the spa, a 5% discount at the restaurant, etc. Like I want to pay $50 for a coupon book that I'll never use.

My better half had luck once telling the hotel manager we didn't use any of the services and he didn't want to pay the fee. We were at a historic hotel in Waikiki and the fee went toward a go-pro rental and other services we didn't use. I was really surprised when the manager actually waved them.

Anyway, sorry to go off on a rant/tangent. My husband said no more coffee today!

And, is there a date by which restaurants must stop adding these fees?

I agree, Sandy. I was really surprised when hit with a 6% charge at a hotel coffee shop/gift shop. I feel like it was easier to understand these charges coming out of the pandemic and when imposed by mom and pop places. When it's a HUGE chain imposing another junk fee it just makes my blood boil a little.

@olympia tennenbaum wrote:

I did a little more digging and found the entire menu online via Yelp.

Don't be surprised if the menu has been updated when you get there with different pricing. I did the same with Yelp and was a bit thrown off when I got the menu there and it wasn't the same. I also just checked the current menu (I snapped a pic of the QR code for my location) and some items are higher than when I was there in April!

It was a really good, and memorable, dinner. I would never have paid $400 for it on my own, but it was totally worth writing the report for. That said, it's not a traditional steakhouse and more of an 'experience'. It changed the way I present my steaks at home. I do all the classic server moves from the restaurant every time I grill and serve steaks at home...and it still gets a laugh from my wife, so 100% worth taking the assignment.

There are many steakhouses that I have shopped, but very few that I would pay my own money to go to. We probably would have been happier with that kind of reimbursement at a Ruth's Chris. I have done the Ruth's shops and have also paid to go there on my own many times.

And kind of off topic, but my wife and I enjoy the expensive dinners as shops much more than going out on our own dime, mainly because it takes the pressure off. It would be really disappointing to have a bad dining experience and be out hundreds of dollars, but on a shop...meh, a bit more writing. I need to feel pretty assured of the experience before I drop a few hundred of my own dollars on a dinner, so the shops are good way to figure out where we want to spend our money.

@sandyf wrote:

What percentage of people who fight hidden fees are successful?

There's a shop I have had where part of it is complaining about the surcharge and asking for it to be removed. It was a hotel shop if I recall correctly, and the idea was apparently getting the staff used to giving the correct response, which was to politely apologize and remove the fee.

@SteveSoCal wrote:

@olympia tennenbaum wrote:

I did a little more digging and found the entire menu online via Yelp.

Don't be surprised if the menu has been updated when you get there with different pricing. I did the same with Yelp and was a bit thrown off when I got the menu there and it wasn't the same. I also just checked the current menu (I snapped a pic of the QR code for my location) and some items are higher than when I was there in April!

It was a really good, and memorable, dinner. I would never have paid $400 for it on my own, but it was totally worth writing the report for. That said, it's not a traditional steakhouse and more of an 'experience'. It changed the way I present my steaks at home. I do all the classic server moves from the restaurant every time I grill and serve steaks at home...and it still gets a laugh from my wife, so 100% worth taking the assignment.

There are many steakhouses that I have shopped, but very few that I would pay my own money to go to. We probably would have been happier with that kind of reimbursement at a Ruth's Chris. I have done the Ruth's shops and have also paid to go there on my own many times.

And kind of off topic, but my wife and I enjoy the expensive dinners as shops much more than going out on our own dime, mainly because it takes the pressure off. It would be really disappointing to have a bad dining experience and be out hundreds of dollars, but on a shop...meh, a bit more writing. I need to feel pretty assured of the experience before I drop a few hundred of my own dollars on a dinner, so the shops are good way to figure out where we want to spend our money.

What you wrote also describes us to a T. There are some places that were introduced to us through shopping that I have returned to on my own dime. There are other places that I've really enjoyed it all but still likely wouldn't spend the kind of money on the meal out. Then, like you described, there are times when the experience or food falls flat and I'm really grateful not to have spent my own money on it! When I'm spending big money on eating out I want to know that I'll love it so we tend to end up returning to favorite places that are consistently great.

I love a great steak but I can make one at home so spending $$$ on a steakhouse doesn't usually end up being something we do that regularly.

Oh, and thanks for your review! From the social media aspect I was beginning to worry it could be a cringey experience. Hopefully it'll be fun.

Oh boy, it will be so memorable and fun. I didn't know the restaurant nor have I ever heard of it but my DDs knew right away. We did eeny, meeny, miny, moe to see who would be my guest, LOL. After reviewing a menu beforehand and seeing no side served with the proteins, I contacted Coyle support beforehand offering to pay for sides if over reimbursement. The timely answer was a resounding yes.

Enjoy!

I didn't read all of the answers, and I haven't worked for Coyle for a very long time. And I really don't know of a steakhouse where you have to buy side dishes separately (except at some very fancy places in Las Vegas). Most of the steakhouse shops I've done, the entrée comes in a meal with one or two sides of your choosing. So color me confused, I'm completely baffled by your question and I probably should have kept scrolling.

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@Morledzep wrote:

I didn't read all of the answers, and I haven't worked for Coyle for a very long time. And I really don't know of a steakhouse where you have to buy side dishes separately (except at some very fancy places in Las Vegas). Most of the steakhouse shops I've done, the entrée comes in a meal with one or two sides of your choosing. So color me confused, I'm completely baffled by your question and I probably should have kept scrolling.

No, you have the idea. It’s like a Vegas steakhouse. When you order steak you just get steak. If you want veggies it’s another $18!

The ordering requirements state that you need to order two entrees an app and dessert. So, I was wondering about sides. Another MSC doesn’t allow them so you’re just sitting there with a steak. I was hoping that wouldn’t be the case with Coyle and it’s not.

This is truly the water cooler experience. @olympia tennenbaum is absolutely required to return her with her own review after the shop.

The only cringey part of the dinner for me was realizing how much social media affects the younger generation and their willingness to pay that kind of $$ for a steak. I probably broke a few Coyle policies during the meal by being too talkative, addressing all the staff by their name, taking photos with them, etc. ...but that's what all the other customers were doing, so we just went with it. They even offered to take our photo with the giant picture of the restaurant owner near the entrance at the end of the meal, because that's what many people come for.

And for my location in Beverly Hills, watching the other customers was half of the fun for us. Most of them are valet parking a Rolls Royce and we Ubered out of there in a Prius. I'm sure they were wondering if we could afford it, but I wore a silk Ed Hardy dress shirt (bought on a shop for just these occasions) so I fit right in

I think the Ed Hardy shirt is probably on the way out as far as what the other customers were wearing for fashion, but it's all that I got if I'm trying to make an obnoxious fashion statement. Do they even have D&G shops if I need to come current? I pulled that shirt off a highly discounted rack and it was probably around 75-80% off, since I remember not being out any money after adding the shop fee to the reimbursement.

For the record, and before anyone judges me, the shirt 100% used for mystery shopping purposes. I don't own any other silk clothing so it goes with me next week for the dry-cleaning request on the hotel shop, and then it's ready to make another appearance at the next over-the-top dinner we go to. It probably gets dry-cleaned more than I actually wear it.

Okay, I’m seriously laughing over here. You all are basically painting the picture I imagined of this place.

I guess as long as the food is good, it’ll be one for the record books.

Steve, it sounds like you were just trying not to stand out too much. That should be applauded. Ha ha.

In Southern California taste and style seem to be highly subjective. And as for fashion, sometimes there are just no words.

@olympia tennenbaum wrote:

Thanks, Steve. Based on something you wrote in the past I wondered if you had visited. I knew nothing about the place before the Coyle posting and after visiting the website, I wonder what the visit will be like. Online reviews are extremely split.

I like the bar tip. I ended up doing something similar with my last non-Coyle steakhouse. The location was basically empty so I'm glad we did it that way. It always seems like a tell when you head to the bar when you have reservations and the place is empty.

I was checking out the menu and I'm picking up what you're putting down on the app and dessert. Too bad the sides look like those from a commonplace Australian-themed steakhouse chain! I'll have to figure out more about the steaks. Based on my quick look it seems like there are some less expensive options and then some outrageous options. Hopefully there will be something decent in-between. Sounds like you made it work.

Did your location have a crazy surcharge? I really abhor how they can pop up and bite you. I had one at the coffee shop of a hotel recently and felt kind of bitter seeing 6% I wasn't expecting.

Thanks, as always. Whenever I have Coyle questions I'm particularly happy to see your responses knowing how much experience you have!

I recently did the same shop and I just wanted to point out one thing. The king crab appetizer on the menu was literally the BEST king crab that I have ever had in my entire life, and king crab is my favorite food. I am aware that the price of that appetizer was really really high, but I was there for a special occasion and decided to splurge and deal with paying a little overage. It was worth it, for me. And Coyle had no problem with the expensive appetizer, I assume since this particular steakhouse has such expensive items on the menu. (I also saved a bit by getting the cheapest dessert - the ice cream - and it was still delicious and a perfect end to one of the best meals I have had.) So, if you love king crab, this might be worth the splurge for you too.

The location that I went to (New York) did NOT have the surcharge included. I think it depends upon the location though. You could call and ask in advance.

Also, FYI - I got two sides in addition to the steaks, and again, Coyle had no issues.

Finally, I wanted to let you know that I email Coyle support with a TON of questions and it's never caused me any issues. In fact, I think they prefer it so that you do it correctly for the client.

Hope you enjoy the steakhouse!

@laloweryshops wrote:

@olympia tennenbaum wrote:

Thanks, Steve. Based on something you wrote in the past I wondered if you had visited. I knew nothing about the place before the Coyle posting and after visiting the website, I wonder what the visit will be like. Online reviews are extremely split.

I like the bar tip. I ended up doing something similar with my last non-Coyle steakhouse. The location was basically empty so I'm glad we did it that way. It always seems like a tell when you head to the bar when you have reservations and the place is empty.

I was checking out the menu and I'm picking up what you're putting down on the app and dessert. Too bad the sides look like those from a commonplace Australian-themed steakhouse chain! I'll have to figure out more about the steaks. Based on my quick look it seems like there are some less expensive options and then some outrageous options. Hopefully there will be something decent in-between. Sounds like you made it work.

Did your location have a crazy surcharge? I really abhor how they can pop up and bite you. I had one at the coffee shop of a hotel recently and felt kind of bitter seeing 6% I wasn't expecting.

Thanks, as always. Whenever I have Coyle questions I'm particularly happy to see your responses knowing how much experience you have!

I recently did the same shop and I just wanted to point out one thing. The king crab appetizer on the menu was literally the BEST king crab that I have ever had in my entire life, and king crab is my favorite food. I am aware that the price of that appetizer was really really high, but I was there for a special occasion and decided to splurge and deal with paying a little overage. It was worth it, for me. And Coyle had no problem with the expensive appetizer, I assume since this particular steakhouse has such expensive items on the menu. (I also saved a bit by getting the cheapest dessert - the ice cream - and it was still delicious and a perfect end to one of the best meals I have had.) So, if you love king crab, this might be worth the splurge for you too.

The location that I went to (New York) did NOT have the surcharge included. I think it depends upon the location though. You could call and ask in advance.

Also, FYI - I got two sides in addition to the steaks, and again, Coyle had no issues.

Finally, I wanted to let you know that I email Coyle support with a TON of questions and it's never caused me any issues. In fact, I think they prefer it so that you do it correctly for the client.

Hope you enjoy the steakhouse!

Ooh, that's some excellent intel. I do happen to love crab so I'll double check if my location has it.

Based on all of these responses about sides I'm guessing the other MSC is more the exception!

I'm getting the feeling like it's going to be a kind of wacky experience but that the food should be pretty good.

I'm glad to hear that you didn't experience a surcharge. In high tax states, tax, surcharge and tip and seriously add up.

After all of this, I will have to report back afterwards!

Not a Coyle shop but we had one a couple months ago where the server asked if we wanted bread. We stated yes. Once it was finished she asked if we wanted more and I agreed. Fast forward to the bill. The bread was $14 apiece. There was a 21% service charge added and blank spaces for the recommended 20,25, and 30% tip. Six months earlier at their opening it was standing room only. This time we were the sole diners. I am forbidden from doing that shop again.

@Msilk wrote:

Not a Coyle shop but we had one a couple months ago where the server asked if we wanted bread. We stated yes. Once it was finished she asked if we wanted more and I agreed. Fast forward to the bill. The bread was $14 apiece. There was a 21% service charge added and blank spaces for the recommended 20,25, and 30% tip. Six months earlier at their opening it was standing room only. This time we were the sole diners. I am forbidden from doing that shop again.

Oh man. That stinks! I had a shop recently where it was very difficult to ask for required special request - mostly dumplings and potstickers etc. I asked for the spicy sauce on the side with them. $7 for a sauce!

So, you are forbidden by the MSC? Over the bread?

Sometimes it’s hard to do these and not end up doing some weird stuff. Like just ordering a steak! I always think they’ll know I’m shopping them but I don’t get great service so then I think many of them don’t catch on.

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Sometimes I am sure they are on to me from the stupid things I am forced to ask, and then the server does something horrific, and I realize I was being paranoid.

@Msilk my guest agreed to a refill on coffee after dessert on a dinner shop last week, and there were 3 orders for coffee on the bill! When I brought it up, it turns out they don't make decaf in the evenings, so they served my guest a decaf Americano and charged it as coffee, with no refills allowed!

No, it’s my better half who will not allow me to shop there again. The bread and 21% tip really blew the budget and left a sour taste in our mouths.

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